# Audio SPLITS with Mp3tag?

**URL:** <https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910>\
**Category:** Off-Topic\
**Created:** [August 25, 2023, 10:09am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910 "2023-08-25T10:09:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/3ec8ea/32.png) [@uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/uniq2020)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:09am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/1 "2023-08-25T10:09:28Z")

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Hello all,

I'm just wondering if Mp3tag can do the audio splitting by using the tag information?  
Probably not !?

Any of you could know any program that does it perfectly?  
I'm looking for something which would split a single album into its tracks  
according to the silences in between or using the Discogs info?

Yes, I've tried the known audio/wave progs that have the split function,  
but they all seem to have issue when it comes to those with old vinyl crackling sound ...  
so yes, the program has to be the old vinyl friendly & has auto split function 🙂

I'd really appreciate any help/suggestion.  
Thanks

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**Author:** ![ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/ohrenkino/32/4843_2.png) [@ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/ohrenkino)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:13am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/2 "2023-08-25T10:13:13Z")

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> [@uniq2020](#):
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> I'm just wondering if Mp3tag can do the audio splitting

No. MP3tag only deals with the tag data and leaves the payload part as it is.

The nero wave editor can split audo files. But you have to do the tagging afterwards for the individual parts.

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**Author:** ![uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/3ec8ea/32.png) [@uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/uniq2020)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:17am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/3 "2023-08-25T10:17:34Z")

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Thank you.

Can it do the auto split?  
It wont be convenient if I have to the do the marker drops manually ... too many files, I'm afraid 🙂

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**Author:** ![ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/ohrenkino/32/4843_2.png) [@ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/ohrenkino)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:18am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/4 "2023-08-25T10:18:43Z")

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> [@uniq2020](#):
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> too many files, I'm afraid

It deals with 1 long file at a time.

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**Author:** ![uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/3ec8ea/32.png) [@uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/uniq2020)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:19am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/5 "2023-08-25T10:19:41Z")

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I'll give it a shot and will let you know

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**Author:** ![MotleyG](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/motleyg/32/440_2.png) [@MotleyG](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/MotleyG)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:23am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/6 "2023-08-25T10:23:14Z")

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This is typically a manual process for all programs I have used. Some software can try to guess, but based on background noise, crackles, and pops they tend to either miss splits, or add some where they shouldn’t be.

I prefer Audacity for this. There are many filters available to help tame some of the noises as well. But definitely manual.

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**Author:** ![LyricsLover](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/c6cbf5/32.png) [@LyricsLover](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/LyricsLover)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:28am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/7 "2023-08-25T10:28:41Z")

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> [@uniq2020](#):
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> I'm just wondering if Mp3tag can do the audio splitting by using the tag information?

This could theoretically work, if the track length from an online source would be perfectly match your own file.

I estimate the risk that you cut off the end of a song and the beginning of the next song therefore starts with the end of the previous song as pretty high.  
There are just too much release possibilities for the same album (Vinyl, CD, Original, Remastered, Reissue, Country specific releases) - even with just slightly changed track lengths.

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**Author:** ![uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/3ec8ea/32.png) [@uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/uniq2020)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:59am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/8 "2023-08-25T10:59:27Z")

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Yes that seems to be the case with Audacity, Wavelab, WavePad, AVS, etc.  
It all works out fine in auto if its a CD rip.

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**Author:** ![uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/3ec8ea/32.png) [@uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/uniq2020)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/9 "2023-08-25T11:05:24Z")

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This could be the perfect fix for the vinyl splits, I suppose ... just separate the tracks according to the Mp3tag/Discogs time codes ... and all a user have to do is the trim the album edges before the spits 🙂

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**Author:** ![MotleyG](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/motleyg/32/440_2.png) [@MotleyG](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/MotleyG)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:12am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/10 "2023-08-25T11:12:06Z")

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Of course CDs already have the digital track indicators present that are used for this. Vinyl rips are just one long analog audio signal recorded to digital that need to be trimmed and split as desired.

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**Author:** ![LyricsLover](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/c6cbf5/32.png) [@LyricsLover](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/LyricsLover)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:16am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/11 "2023-08-25T11:16:45Z")

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> [@uniq2020](#):
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> I'd really appreciate any help/suggestion.

Another approach could be to search for a matching [Cuesheet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_sheet_(computing)).  
This simple text file contains the length of every track. With such a Cuesheet and the help of software like [mp3DirectCut](https://mpesch3.de/) you could try to cut your files into pieces/tracks.

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**Author:** ![uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/3ec8ea/32.png) [@uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/uniq2020)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:22am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/12 "2023-08-25T11:22:45Z")

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That's interesting ... but where would I get the .cue files of the individual albums?

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**Author:** ![uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/3ec8ea/32.png) [@uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/uniq2020)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:25am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/13 "2023-08-25T11:25:58Z")

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but where is the AI in this ... let the AI do the vinyl splits ... that'd be brilliant 🙂

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**Author:** ![poster](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/poster/32/4881_2.png) [@poster](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/poster)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:32am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/14 "2023-08-25T11:32:10Z")

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> [@LyricsLover](#):
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> Another approach could be to search for a matching [Cuesheet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_sheet_(computing)).

I tried this several times with downloaded Cue-sheets for some albums but I had to manually correct every cut-point  
BTW **Mp3Directcut** has an automatic search for split points. (Special -\> Pause detection).  
To my experience the best way with Mp3s is to let Mp3Directcut search for pauses, look over the results and correct them manually.

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**Author:** ![ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/ohrenkino/32/4843_2.png) [@ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/ohrenkino)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:34am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/15 "2023-08-25T11:34:21Z")

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> [@uniq2020](#):
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> let the AI do the vinyl splits

You do know that AIs have to be trained so that an AI learns what a good split and a bad one would be?  
You could go ahead and let it work on your

> [@uniq2020](#):
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> many files

and then allow others access to it.  
Or it may be easier to do it manually as the old fathers did.

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**Author:** ![poster](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/poster/32/4881_2.png) [@poster](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/poster)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:42am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/16 "2023-08-25T11:42:45Z")

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> [@uniq2020](#):
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> That's interesting ... but where would I get the .cue files of the individual albums?

There are several websites with cuesheets to download, i.e. [TransIP - Reserved domain](https://www.regeert.nl/cuesheet/).  
But as I wrote: Don't expect too much in practice. I had to manually correct the cut-points most of the time.

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**Author:** ![uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/3ec8ea/32.png) [@uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/uniq2020)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:43am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/17 "2023-08-25T11:43:04Z")

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it shouldnt be so difficult ... all an AI has to do is to get the time code info and apply it at the approximate lowest threshold point in the area, no?

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**Author:** ![uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/3ec8ea/32.png) [@uniq2020](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/uniq2020)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:45am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/18 "2023-08-25T11:45:53Z")

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cheers m8  
I'll try them out and will let you know 🙂

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**Author:** ![poster](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/poster/32/4881_2.png) [@poster](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/poster)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/19 "2023-08-25T12:03:50Z")

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I would not call that AI. That's "simple " programming.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/audio-splits-with-mp3tag/61910/20 "2023-08-25T12:13:56Z")

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Maybe also this is ome help for you.

> **[DCue](https://sourceforge.net/projects/dcue/)**
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> Download DCue for free. A CLI audio cue file generator which uses the Discogs.com API. DCue is a command line tool for automatically generating audio cue sheets (.cue files) using the massive release database from Discogs.com to find artist names,...
