# Edit Actions w/o any files in main window

**URL:** https://community.mp3tag.de/t/edit-actions-w-o-any-files-in-main-window/47249
**Category:** General Discussion
**Created:** [December 8, 2019, 9:04am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/edit-actions-w-o-any-files-in-main-window/47249 "2019-12-08T09:04:06Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author: ![Patch](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/patch/32/9350_2.png) [@Patch](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Patch)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2019, 9:04am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/edit-actions-w-o-any-files-in-main-window/47249/1 "2019-12-08T09:04:07Z")

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I'm certain this will have been asked before, and I'm certain that I'll be directed to a great thread that answers my question - but I have tried a search, but didn't uncover anything helpful.

So, how can I view and edit actions without any files in the main MP3Tag window?

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### Author: ![ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/ohrenkino/32/4843_2.png) [@ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/ohrenkino)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2019, 10:39am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/edit-actions-w-o-any-files-in-main-window/47249/2 "2019-12-08T10:39:27Z")

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I find that you really have to load at least one file and even have to select it before you can create, edit or delete an action group.

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### Author: ![Patch](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/patch/32/9350_2.png) [@Patch](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Patch)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/edit-actions-w-o-any-files-in-main-window/47249/3 "2019-12-08T15:52:28Z")

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That’s precisely what I’ve found, too.

But does it have to be that way?

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### Author: ![Patch](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/patch/32/9350_2.png) [@Patch](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Patch)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2021, 9:46am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/edit-actions-w-o-any-files-in-main-window/47249/4 "2021-05-14T09:46:55Z")

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BUMP!

Because it is the case that I’ll have my laptop with me, but not my external drive with my music library on, and in that situation, I can’t update any rules or actions in MP3Tag…

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### Author: ![poster](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/poster/32/4881_2.png) [@poster](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/poster)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2021, 10:49am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/edit-actions-w-o-any-files-in-main-window/47249/5 "2021-05-14T10:49:34Z")

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I think that there are music files on every windows installation.

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### Author: ![MotleyG](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/motleyg/32/440_2.png) [@MotleyG](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/MotleyG)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2021, 10:56am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/edit-actions-w-o-any-files-in-main-window/47249/6 "2021-05-14T10:56:54Z")

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Maybe copy a few different files to a local "Test" folder? Ideally if you are creating new Actions you'd need something to confirm the results with. Plus this would be done in advance without affecting your actual library.
