# \[F\] %rating mm% sometimes not work
**URL:** https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276
**Category:** Fixed Bugs
**Tags:** bug-fixed
**Created:** [October 30, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276 "2014-10-30T14:59:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@UksusoFF](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/UksusoFF)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/1 "2014-10-30T14:59:46Z")
Hi!
I've use latest MediaMonkey 4.1.5.1719 and Mp3tag 2.65a.
Sometimes Mp3tag can't get value of %rating mm% if rating changed via MM.
Files:
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### Author:  [@ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/ohrenkino)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/2 "2014-10-30T16:51:19Z")
You could check if Mp3tag shows the rating in a different tag as all of these programs use the POPM atom. Only the format inside this atom determines what the application does with it, I think.
So it could be that a value that MM uses is not understood by MP3tag - provided, POPM has been used.
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### Author:  [@UksusoFF](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/UksusoFF)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/3 "2014-10-30T17:47:37Z")
for this i need add %rating winamp% and %rating wmp% column or something else?
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### Author:  [@ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/ohrenkino)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/4 "2014-10-30T19:33:16Z")
> [@UksusoFF](#):
>
> for this i need add %rating winamp% and %rating wmp% column or something else?
The extended tags dialogue should show you what Mp3tag made of the field.
Also,you could try POPULARIMETER
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### Author:  [@UksusoFF](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/UksusoFF)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2014, 6:48am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/5 "2014-10-31T06:48:34Z")
> [@ohrenkino](#):
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> The extended tags dialogue should show you what Mp3tag made of the field.
> Also,you could try POPULARIMETER
how can i view this? i can't find POPULARIMETER or POPM in additional fields of mp3tag
**UPD** : [/t/2826/1](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/2826/1)
**UPD2** :
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### Author:  [@ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/ohrenkino)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2014, 8:10am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/6 "2014-10-31T08:10:40Z")
> [@UksusoFF](#):
>
> how can i view this? i can't find POPULARIMETER or POPM in additional fields of mp3tag
>
> **UPD** : [/t/2826/1](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/2826/1)
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> **UPD2** :
> 
Try the extended tags dialogue first: Alt-T
In this dialogue try to find a field that looks like a rating field.
it should have a field name in that list.
Use this field name to create a column.
Popularimeter has to be entered manually.
But it is still in the list of fields: [https://docs.mp3tag.de/mapping](https://docs.mp3tag.de/mapping)
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### Author:  [@UksusoFF](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/UksusoFF)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2014, 7:06am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/7 "2014-11-01T07:06:21Z")
> [@ohrenkino](#):
>
> Try the extended tags dialogue first: Alt-T
> In this dialogue try to find a field that looks like a rating field.
> it should have a field name in that list.
> Use this field name to create a column.
>
> Popularimeter has to be entered manually.
> But it is still in the list of fields: [https://docs.mp3tag.de/mapping](https://docs.mp3tag.de/mapping)
Yes, looks like MM save rating like POPULARIMETER and read it from POPULARIMETER and RATING MM.
Any chance to save and read rating in both POPULARIMETER and RATING MM via one column in mp3tag?
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### Author:  [@ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/ohrenkino)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2014, 9:22am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/8 "2014-11-01T09:22:34Z")
> [@UksusoFF](#):
>
> Yes, looks like MM save rating like POPULARIMETER and read it from POPULARIMETER and RATING MM.
> Any chance to save and read rating in both POPULARIMETER and RATING MM via one column in mp3tag?
Does MM create a multivalue field? That is: a second field for rating?
AFAIK: as it is always the same field, it is only the internal format that makes the contents appear as a rating for MM or for WMP etc.
So: if the format (e.g. POPULARIMETER with |255 for 5 stars and MM with |5 for 5 stars) does not match the expectations of the other program you will never get the data into the same column.
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### Author:  [@LyricsLover](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/LyricsLover)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2014, 11:32am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/9 "2014-11-02T11:32:44Z")
According to the MM-Forum, the MediaMonkey developers have changed the values they write into the tag POPULARIMETER: [http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic...78&p=389271](http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=76478&p=389271)
The value for 1 Star and 5 Star are not displayed in Mp3tag
½, 1½, 2, 2½, 3, 3½, 4, 4½ are correct!
MM writes the following hex values after "no@email" to the POPM-Tag:
1 Star = hex 01
5 Stars = hex ff
Would be nice, if Mp3tag could adjust this new values and display the values for 1 and 5 Stars correct.
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### Author:  [@DetlevD](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/DetlevD)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2014, 11:51am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/10 "2014-11-02T11:51:34Z")
> [@UksusoFF](#):
>
> Hi! I've use latest MediaMonkey 4.1.5.1719 and Mp3tag 2.65a. Sometimes Mp3tag can't get value of %rating mm% if rating changed via MM. ...
Have a look there ...
[/t/15722/1](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/15722/1)
[/t/16082/1](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/16082/1)
[http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic...78&p=389271](http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=76478&p=389271)
DD.20141102.1351.CET
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### Author:  [@LyricsLover](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/LyricsLover)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2014, 12:05pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/11 "2014-11-02T12:05:05Z")
Thank you for your scripts, DetlevD.
I would still prefer to see this value correctly displayed WITHOUT any additional scripts in Mp3tag. No offense! 
BTW: Are you sure, that MM's 1 Star = hex 17 and not as in my post hex 01?
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### Author:  [@Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Florian)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2014, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/12 "2014-12-13T12:06:25Z")
I've updated %RATING MM% to use the latest values from MediaMonkey with Mp3tag v2.66.
Kind regards
Florian
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### Author:  [@UksusoFF](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/UksusoFF)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2014, 1:36pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/13 "2014-12-13T13:36:43Z")
thx! 
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### Author:  [@Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Florian)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/f-rating-mm-sometimes-not-work/16276/14 "2018-12-28T14:08:16Z")
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