# How to add an extra space between song number and title?
**URL:** https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [April 10, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837 "2011-04-10T15:26:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@Psydux](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Psydux)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837/1 "2011-04-10T15:26:47Z")
Hey everyone,
I'd like to know how I could add automatically an extra space just before the song title.
Example: instead of "01Song 1" \> "01. Song 1".
Is there some kind of automatic conversion?
Thank you very much!
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### Author:  [@pone](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/pone)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837/2 "2011-04-10T16:32:54Z")
> [@Psydux](#):
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> Example: instead of "01.Song 1" \> "01. Song 1".
Is this the title tag field or the filename?
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### Author:  [@Psydux](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Psydux)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837/3 "2011-04-10T17:17:32Z")
> [@pone](#):
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> Is this the title tag field or the filename?
It's in the tag column.
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### Author:  [@pone](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/pone)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837/4 "2011-04-10T17:21:48Z")
> [@Psydux](#):
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> It's in the tag column.
What tag field?
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### Author:  [@ohrenkino](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/ohrenkino)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837/5 "2011-04-10T17:54:45Z")
> [@Psydux](#):
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> Is there some kind of automatic conversion?
No, thank God (or the better: the programmer) there is no automatism.
The string you published looks to me like the filename.
The filename is no tag. A filename is the outside identifier used by the filesystem.
MP3tag deals mainly with tags. They are inside the files. Tags in general do not care what the filename looks like.
But: MP3tag has great functions to generate tags from filenames and filenames from tags.
So:
Check if you have not only filenames but also tags.
If your case you can use the converter
filename - filename
enter this mask for the old filename
%1.%2
enter this mask for the new filename
%1. %2
The preview should show you the probable result
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### Author:  [@Psydux](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Psydux)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2011, 9:26am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837/6 "2011-04-12T09:26:25Z")
I can't seem to be doing it right. ☹
Sorry, but: I do have "01Song1.mp3" under the filename column,
Maybe my settings aren't right,.
It seems that when I do **convert filename - filename,**
and then I type **%1** (in the **new filename pattern** )
the track number seems to be included in **%1.**
I don't understand!
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### Author:  [@DetlevD](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/DetlevD)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2011, 11:27am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837/7 "2011-04-12T11:27:18Z")
> [@Psydux](#):
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> ... I don't understand!
Psydux, you have joined the forum at "15-December 09".
Did you ever do anything with Mp3tag in the meantime?
Be honest, do you understand the philosophy and mechanics of tagging?
Why do you present different test cases?
> [@](#):
>
> Example: instead of "01.Song 1" \> "01. Song 1".
> Sorry, but: I do have "01Song1.mp3" under the filename column,
How can we help you?
DD.20110412.1527.CEST
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### Author:  [@Psydux](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Psydux)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2011, 11:43am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837/8 "2011-04-12T11:43:27Z")
Sorry, 
I do understand the mechanics of tagging.
My problem is solved. Thank you for your help.
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### Author:  [@DetlevD](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/DetlevD)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837/9 "2011-04-12T11:52:36Z")
> [@Psydux](#):
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> ... under the FILENAME column, I have "01Song1.mp3"
> I'd like to add a space and a dot between the track number and the song title
> and get "01. Song1.mp3" ... Then, I'd eventually like to copy this field into the TITLE column ...
1.
You can use the converter 'Tag- Filename' with the Formatstring ...
**$num(%\_filename%,2)'. '$trimLeft(%\_filename%,'0123456789')**
From:
01Song1.mp3
To:
1. Song1.mp3
2.
You can use the converter 'Filename - Tag' with the Formatstring ...
**%TITLE%**
DD.20110412.1552.CEST
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### Author:  [@Psydux](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Psydux)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2011, 11:54am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837/10 "2011-04-12T11:54:02Z")
Thank you.
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### Author:  [@system](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/system)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2026, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/how-to-add-an-extra-space-between-song-number-and-title/11837/11 "2026-02-09T12:23:01Z")