# Narrator feature of Windows 10 - cannot get rid of it completely \[as it keeps turning on in Free Virtual Keyboard\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Off-Topic\ **Created:** [February 7, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/narrator-feature-of-windows-10-cannot-get-rid-of-it-completely-as-it-keeps-turning-on-in-free-virtual-keyboard/51903 "2021-02-07T19:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zerow](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/zerow/32/11379_2.png) [@Zerow](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Zerow)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/narrator-feature-of-windows-10-cannot-get-rid-of-it-completely-as-it-keeps-turning-on-in-free-virtual-keyboard/51903/1 "2021-02-07T19:05:27Z")
This discussion says it all [https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8\_1-desktop/how-do-i-remove-narrator-period-i-do-not-want-to/8c0cba08-65f3-4594-b476-f82e9f17a1c8](https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-desktop/how-do-i-remove-narrator-period-i-do-not-want-to/8c0cba08-65f3-4594-b476-f82e9f17a1c8) Conclusion: there are problems with turning off Narrator - and Microsoft does not care ` ` ` ` The solution that was presented there did not work for me - because I [in spite of my user being the Administrator] could not grand the full access to the `C:\Windows\System32\Narrator.exe`. But I did eventually managed do get rid on that the EXE file from `C:\Windows\System32` by the means of using Take Ownership hack [although I had during the deletion also to confirm to Windows that I want to grand administrative right for that operation] But that also did not work; even after resetting the system. And so I went to FreeCommander, used its Search feature and found all files and folders that had ''narrator'' in it- and I repeated the step from above; this time resetting at once. After login in a made the search for ''narrator''- and found zero items. But that did not work ` ` ` ` Because I still get the Narrator turn itself on when I use the non-installed version Free Virtual Keyboard and at the same time use the Magnifier feature of Windows - and press [RIGHT] ALT + Z in FVK **Yes, that is correct: all files were wiped from the system drive C - and yet this software is still somehow executable via third party software that is not even installed** I can switch the option available at **Settings \> Easy of Access \> Vision \> Narrator \> Use Narrator \> Turn on Narrator** on & off - and the Narrator says nothing [which is a good sign]. And the **Settings \> Easy of Access \> Vision \> Narrator \> Use Narrator \> Turn on Narrator \> Open Narrator Home \> Turn off Narrator** no longer opens another window with Narrator saying "hello" [which is even a better sign] - but FVK somehow is able to evoke Narrator and force it to speak once again I did not had such problems on my previous Windows 10 machine or on Windows 7; using any software. I was not even aware about the existence of such Microsoft feature, as I have not used it [or at best was able without a sweat to turn it off once and simply forgot about its existance]. I tried using my older version of Free Virtual Keyboard [4.1 instead of 5.0] but it also turn the Narrator on. I went through options of FVK and found nothing about shortcuts. I search also on the Internet for list of Narrator shortcut- and found no reference to [any] ALT + Z. And as I mentioned, my Free Virtual Keyboard is not even installed on the system-I run it from from an EXE file I also went prior to all of the above to Windows Services and looked on the list for `Narrator` or `Microsoft Narrator` to disable it - but did found it there ` ` ` ` So, has anyone encountered something similar: an ability to still being able to run a Windows Ease Of Access feature after deleting all of its files; and a theoretically non existing keyboard shortcut? **And moreover: how to really get rid of or definitely block Narrator?** ---
**Author:** ![Zerow](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/zerow/32/11379_2.png) [@Zerow](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Zerow)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/narrator-feature-of-windows-10-cannot-get-rid-of-it-completely-as-it-keeps-turning-on-in-free-virtual-keyboard/51903/2 "2021-02-07T19:24:49Z")
Well It seems hat immediate solution to > [@Zerow](#): > > [...] > I still get the Narrator turn itself on when I use the non-installed version Free Virtual Keyboard and at the same time use the Magnifier feature of Windows - and press [RIGHT] ALT + Z in FVK > [...] is to go to **Settings \> Easy of Access \> Magnifier \> Reading \> Choose a modifier key \>** and choose for example `Insert` instead of the apparently default `Control + Alt` And that was so logical, o check Magnifier options, as it was only during of the usage of also the Magnifier ` ` ` ` But do you see the Matrix here? It was `Control + Alt` in options but in reality it was `[RIGHT] ALT + Z`. And it was working only when executed via Free Virtual Keyboard ` ` ` ` **But I am still curious: how is that even possible?** **And I am afraid that the Narrator will now manifest itself somewhere else; and / or will come back after a Windows update**