# .wav Riff tags needed for DAW **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [September 24, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wav-riff-tags-needed-for-daw/50279 "2020-09-24T15:08:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![leonsk1978](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e9c0ed/32.png) [@leonsk1978](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/leonsk1978)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wav-riff-tags-needed-for-daw/50279/1 "2020-09-24T15:08:31Z")
Hey guys I need to embed BPM info into wavs for FL Studio When I save a .wav the tag shows up in mp3tag as just **RIFF (RIFF)** but when I edit the fields in mp3tag it changes to **ID3v2.3 (RIFF ID3v2.3)** and the tempo information in FL doesn't show up Is there a way to have mp3tag just write RIFF (RIFF) tags only for wavs? ---
**Author:** ![phw](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/phw/32/11831_2.png) [@phw](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/phw)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wav-riff-tags-needed-for-daw/50279/2 "2020-09-24T15:27:18Z")
I don't think the additional ID3 tags are doing harm. Rather it is a question if MP3tag writes the BPM to RIFF INFO at all. Not sure about if it does, but I for one would not even know which RIFF INFO tag should be used for this. Can you say what FL Studio uses or if it supports this actually? At [https://exiftool.org/TagNames/RIFF.html](https://exiftool.org/TagNames/RIFF.html) is usually the most comprehensive overview of RIFF INFO tags, but I find nothing that would be suitable for BPM. But that does not mean that some software has no tag for this, WAVE tagging is a mess in general. ---
**Author:** ![leonsk1978](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e9c0ed/32.png) [@leonsk1978](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/leonsk1978)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wav-riff-tags-needed-for-daw/50279/3 "2020-09-24T15:35:32Z")
> [@phw](#): > > most comprehensive overview of RIFF INFO tags, but I find nothing that would be suitable for BPM. Bu Yeah i'm not sure what RIFF tag FL writes, but i know once i save a .wav from FL, the tempo information stays embedded regardless of tag changes. I'll have to ask their devs ---
**Author:** ![phw](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/phw/32/11831_2.png) [@phw](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/phw)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 6:21am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wav-riff-tags-needed-for-daw/50279/4 "2020-09-25T06:21:03Z")
Found at least one tool making use of this, Kid3 uses the `IBPM` tag for this, which seems sensible. See: > **[The Kid3 Handbook](https://kid3.sourceforge.io/kid3_en.html#frame-list)** But of course would also be interesting what FL uses, maybe it does it differently. @leonsk1978 If you could tag a simple WAVE file with FL including BPM information and make this available to me I could check. @Florian Thaughts? Does MP3Tag already write BPM into something? If not, would it make sense to add it? ---
**Author:** ![leonsk1978](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e9c0ed/32.png) [@leonsk1978](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/leonsk1978)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wav-riff-tags-needed-for-daw/50279/5 "2020-09-26T17:13:05Z")
@phw Heres a wav exported in FL, the tempo information will display in FL once the audio is exported from FL. Mp3Tag doesn't show any tags written to the file other than RIFF (RIFF) > **[wi - FL Export - Wav (Tempo - 95.834).rar](https://wi.to/f62dff180a44c4f7)** ---
**Author:** ![phw](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/phw/32/11831_2.png) [@phw](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/phw)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wav-riff-tags-needed-for-daw/50279/6 "2020-09-26T18:16:36Z")
That's weird. This file only has a single RIFF INFO tag: ISFT: FL Studio (beta) Nothing else. Also looking at it with a hex editor does not reveal anything to me where it would store the tempo information. Maybe let's do the reverse test. The following file has the IBPM tag set: [https://transfer.sh/MfxHX/test.wav](https://transfer.sh/MfxHX/test.wav) It contains "99" as a value. Could you check if FL does show it? ---
**Author:** ![leonsk1978](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e9c0ed/32.png) [@leonsk1978](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/leonsk1978)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wav-riff-tags-needed-for-daw/50279/7 "2020-09-26T23:15:22Z")
Nah no BPM information comes up in FL with that file @phw ---
**Author:** ![phw](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/phw/32/11831_2.png) [@phw](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/phw)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 7:13am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wav-riff-tags-needed-for-daw/50279/8 "2020-09-28T07:13:16Z")
It was worth a try 🙂 But no idea then what if and how this is supported. Maybe the FL developers can answer your question about this. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://community.mp3tag.de/uploads/default/original/2X/c/ce7035d426cb755a7916793326d23b465222a407.png) [@system](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 12:28pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wav-riff-tags-needed-for-daw/50279/9 "2026-02-09T12:28:50Z")