# Where's "Tag - Tag" conversion?
**URL:** https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wheres-tag-tag-conversion/1350
**Category:** General Discussion
**Created:** [September 26, 2004, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wheres-tag-tag-conversion/1350 "2004-09-26T17:46:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@Sentenced](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Sentenced)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2004, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wheres-tag-tag-conversion/1350/1 "2004-09-26T17:46:31Z")
Just discovered this great proggie. However, how come there is no tag-to-tag conversion available? I have several songs with title tag "%track% - %title%" and of course I want to convert them to just "%title%". Of course I could first use tag-filename and then filename-tag, but I don't want to change the filenames (and tag-tag would be so much easier).
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### Author:  [@dano](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/dano)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2004, 5:58pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wheres-tag-tag-conversion/1350/2 "2004-09-26T17:58:07Z")
The [Actions](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/967/1) [ALT+5] are used for this.
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### Author:  [@Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Florian)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2004, 6:02pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wheres-tag-tag-conversion/1350/3 "2004-09-26T18:02:28Z")
It's [Alt+5] or Converter, Actions 😉
Best regards,
~ Florian
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### Author:  [@Sentenced](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Sentenced)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2004, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wheres-tag-tag-conversion/1350/4 "2004-09-26T18:18:55Z")
Care to give an example on how to accomplish the task mentioned? Without regexp might I add, which would be total overkill for a task this simple.
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### Author:  [@Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Florian)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2004, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wheres-tag-tag-conversion/1350/5 "2004-09-26T18:22:19Z")
> [@](#):
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> QUOTE (Florian @ Sep 26 2004, 09:02 PM)
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> It's [Alt+5] or Converter, Actions :wink:
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> Best regards,
> ~ Florian
Care to give an example on how to accomplish the task mentioned? Without regexp might I add, which would be total overkill for a task this simple.
How would you expect a tagger to do something "this simple" without regular expressions?
_Edit_: if you want to use Mp3tag and regexp, use **TITLE** as field, **(\d\*) - (.\*)** as regular expression and replace matches with **$2**
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### Author:  [@Sentenced](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Sentenced)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wheres-tag-tag-conversion/1350/6 "2004-09-26T21:22:47Z")
> [@](#):
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> How would expect a tagger to do something "this simple" without regular expressions?
The same way it's done with Filename-Tag conversion.
Let's say we have a song with the title "01 - Song", and we want to change it to "Song".
We select Convert -\> Tag-Tag
Program asks for field and we select: TITLE
Program asks for formatstring and we enter: %1 - %2
(Program shows preview - 1: 01 and 2: Song)
Program asks for new entry and we enter: %2
Press OK.
About 42 times simpler than using your suggested method.
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### Author:  [@AndyD](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/AndyD)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wheres-tag-tag-conversion/1350/7 "2004-10-31T20:07:13Z")
I agree with Sentenced.......
quite a few compilation albums "Best xxxx Album in the World Ever...." type thing have the track name as "Name of Artist - Track Name" format......at the moment I use
Tag - Filename then
Filename - Tag typing %artist% - %title%
and it works brilliantly.
I too expected to see a Tag - Tag conversion entry.
Excellent piece of software btw 🙂
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### Author:  [@Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Florian)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2004, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/wheres-tag-tag-conversion/1350/8 "2004-12-09T20:04:03Z")
Sentenced, AndyD,
I've added some kind of Tag - Tag converter with the new action type Guess values with the latest [Development Build](http://developer.mp3tag.de).
Just create a new action Guess values and use **%title%** as source format and **%artist% - %title%** as guessing pattern.
Best regards,
~ Florian