# \[X\] VBR Files have a wrong playlength

**URL:** https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281
**Category:** No Bugs
**Created:** [September 14, 2005, 7:26am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281 "2005-09-14T07:26:14Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![max2950](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@max2950](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/max2950)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2005, 7:26am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/1 "2005-09-14T07:26:14Z")

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Hi,

I noticed that Mp3Tag reports a wrong play length of VBR files, this is not a big issue and does not affect the program at all.

Beste Grusse aus Frankreich !

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### Author: ![dano](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/dano/32/6_2.png) [@dano](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/dano)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2005, 8:03am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/2 "2005-09-14T08:03:07Z")

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Sorry, your post is a bit inaccurate, you should give us more details.

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### Author: ![max2950](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@max2950](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/max2950)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2005, 8:54am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/3 "2005-09-14T08:54:54Z")

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> Sorry, your post is a bit inaccurate, you should give us more details.
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Sorry, let's start with an exemple. I have a VBR mp3 file which's real play length is about 3,30min and Mp3tag reports it has a play length of 20 minutes.....

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### Author: ![Sebastian\_Mares](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/sebastian_mares/32/9285_2.png) [@Sebastian\_Mares](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Sebastian_Mares)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2005, 11:46am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/4 "2005-09-14T11:46:45Z")

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Are you sure the file you have contains a VBR header?

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### Author: ![max2950](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@max2950](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/max2950)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2005, 6:08am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/5 "2005-09-15T06:08:09Z")

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> Are you sure the file you have contains a VBR header?
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I have a doubt..... Winamp reports the file to be encoded at 32kbps, however the file does not sound as if had such a low bitrate.  
May i send you the file?

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### Author: ![Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/florian/32/5759_2.png) [@Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Florian)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2005, 6:52am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/6 "2005-09-15T06:52:32Z")

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Yes, you can send it to my [contact adress](http://mp3tag.de/en/contact.html).

Best regards,  
~ Florian

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### Author: ![milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/milka/32/55_2.png) [@milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/milka)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 7:21am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/7 "2005-09-16T07:21:53Z")

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I have noticed too, some mp3 files have wrong seconds length.  
ex: 01:14:11, must be 01:14:16.

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### Author: ![Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/florian/32/5759_2.png) [@Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Florian)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2005, 8:31am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/8 "2005-09-16T08:31:13Z")

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Still no example files in my inbox ![:rolleyes:](https://community.mp3tag.de/uploads/default/original/1X/3a79e8b0b7d169b30216785521d7c6f4f895c421.gif ":rolleyes:")

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### Author: ![milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/milka/32/55_2.png) [@milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/milka)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2005, 10:04am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/9 "2005-09-19T10:04:58Z")

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Length is mainly wrong with bigger (longer) files (over one houre). ☹

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### Author: ![milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/milka/32/55_2.png) [@milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/milka)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 7:09am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/10 "2005-09-23T07:09:28Z")

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Florian, did you find (fix) bug in length?

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### Author: ![Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/florian/32/5759_2.png) [@Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Florian)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 7:11am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/11 "2005-09-23T07:11:23Z")

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No. I've tested a few 2-3 hours long files I've recorded from the radio for testing, but didn't find any problems with them (used foobar2000 for reference).

Best regards,  
~ Florian

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### Author: ![milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/milka/32/55_2.png) [@milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/milka)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 7:16am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/12 "2005-09-23T07:16:32Z")

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I will send you file, when I find some free time, so that you can fix it. 😉

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### Author: ![milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/milka/32/55_2.png) [@milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/milka)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 9:41am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/13 "2005-09-23T09:41:03Z")

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I have send you link for sample file via personal message!

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### Author: ![milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/milka/32/55_2.png) [@milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/milka)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2005, 7:26am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/14 "2005-09-25T07:26:14Z")

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Florian, did you downloaded sample file, and does it have wrong length? ![:huh:](https://community.mp3tag.de/uploads/default/original/1X/f15ee73c0fd9ec3b0db7481f0558638f8ee224ce.gif ":huh:")

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### Author: ![Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/florian/32/5759_2.png) [@Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Florian)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2005, 9:51am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/15 "2005-09-25T09:51:34Z")

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> Florian, did you downloaded sample file, and does it have wrong length? ![:huh:](https://community.mp3tag.de/uploads/default/original/1X/f15ee73c0fd9ec3b0db7481f0558638f8ee224ce.gif ":huh:")
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I'm currently not at home till tuesday and have a very limited internet connection - so stay patient.

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### Author: ![Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/florian/32/5759_2.png) [@Florian](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Florian)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2005, 9:11am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/16 "2005-09-26T09:11:13Z")

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> I'm currently not at home till tuesday and have a very limited internet connection - so stay patient.
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I've found a open wlan hotspot at the [Café Puck in Munich](http://cafepuck.de/) and downloaded the file but can't find any error. foobar2000 reports this file as 1:19:41 too.

Best regards,  
~ Florian

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### Author: ![milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/milka/32/55_2.png) [@milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/milka)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/17 "2005-09-26T18:57:36Z")

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> I've found a open wlan hotspot at the Café Puck in Munich and downloaded the file but can't find any error. foobar2000 reports this file as 1:19:41 too.

I will try with same file on other computer if that wont work  
I dont know I'll just wait for new version and hope for correct playtime.

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### Author: ![max2950](https://community.mp3tag.de/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@max2950](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/max2950)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2005, 5:04am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/18 "2005-09-27T05:04:13Z")

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> I'm currently not at home till tuesday and have a very limited internet connection - so stay patient.
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No big deal, this is not essential, the only essential thing is that tags get edited properly and they do so no need to hurry.

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### Author: ![milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/milka/32/55_2.png) [@milka](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/milka)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2005, 6:18am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/19 "2005-09-27T06:18:57Z")

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> No big deal, this is not essential, the only essential thing is that tags get edited properly and they do so no need to hurry.

Sorry, but I think that wrong playtime is a big deal. But I belive in Florian and will stay patient. 😉

I checked on other computer and same thing (1:19:34). ☹

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### Author: ![Sebastian\_Mares](https://community.mp3tag.de/user_avatar/community.mp3tag.de/sebastian_mares/32/9285_2.png) [@Sebastian\_Mares](https://community.mp3tag.de/u/Sebastian_Mares)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2005, 9:14am UTC](https://community.mp3tag.de/t/x-vbr-files-have-a-wrong-playlength/2281/20 "2005-09-30T09:14:43Z")

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Well, I doubt that a deviation of a few seconds is _that_ important. Such errors are normal since the calculation of play times implies floating point calculation and therefore rounding errors. Moreover, there are files which have frames with varying attributes. Take this scenario: an MP3 file consists of frames. 50% of these frames have the padding bit set, the other 50% don't have it set. Now program A can calculate the play time for the whole file taking padding into account, while program B can ignore padding since it's not consistent over the whole file. This simple padding bit can make a difference of a few seconds, depending how long the track is. Now you can't say which of the two programs is right or wrong.

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