Extended, Fields, flac comment

Can you create your own extended fields?

Can you create your own information fields?

Can you create your own Ogg Vorbis Comment or are these fixed?

If they are fixed where can you find a complete list.

This list a minimal of standard field names comments
http://www.xiph.org/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html

List of additions to the minimal list in the specification is proposed:
http://wiki.xiph.org/Field_names

This site lists more and different comments
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainz_Picard/Tags/Mapping

At the above site is the mapping for ID3v2 the same as MP3Tag?

And this site as well
http://age.hobba.nl/audio/mirroredpages/ogg-tagging.html

:unsure: I'm Confused.

Yes you can create your own fields.

Standard Tags;

Right click the column headers -> Customize Columns -> [New] button and fill in the details.

Click on [Utils] and Save Configuration to make them permanently available in the app for all files

Extended Tags;

View -> Extended Tags -> [the 'Star'] button

If you want to add the tags to the "Tag Panel"

Tools -> Options -> use the buttons to edit what appears on the panel and in what order.

File -> Save configuration to make it permanent.

Thank you for your reply.
I think I wasn't clear enough in my question or I don't fully understand.
If I go
View, Custom Columns, New Value, New,
Enter Name (TEST)
Value, with drop down box

                   album to tvepisode
           and Drop Down boxes
                      Extended Fields
                      Information Fields
                      Functions

I meant the Extended and Information Fields.

Never mind. I see what you mean.
I had to experiment a while and read the
internal flac comments exiftool(-k).exe.

Thanks this is what i need.

So what I'm thinking is is that Vorbis Comments
aren't fixed internal comments and that I can make them what ever I want.

The only draw back is the tagging program doesn't know what to read unless
I map it to its definition or ones I create and the music players want be able
to read it unless it meets their definitions.

Do mp3 file do the same way?

That's correct. There is no fixed structure. A field named 'TEST' will be named exactly that. There are some loosely defined standards for the usage of a few fields with names such as ARTIST and ALBUM and TITLE and etc., but you can create any name you like.

I'm not sure what you mean by the tagging program. Mp3tag? If its a non-standard field, you'll have to create a column and/or a Tag Panel field to see it in the normal view. But it will always be displayed in the Extended Tags dialog box. You don't need to create what Mp3tag calls a "mapping", however, which maps one name to a different name. If you call your field "BLAHBLAH" that's exactly what it will be read and written.

But you're correct about music players and other applications. If they don't recognize the field that you create, they won't be able to use it. Some advanced applications may let you define new fields, but it's fairly uncommon.

Yes and no. Mp3 fields have names that are typically 4 characters in length. For example, TPE1 is 'artist' and TALB is 'album'. In Mp3tag you simply use ARTIST and ALBUM and the names are mapped internally. However, if you create a non-standard field name of your own, a special TXXX (user defined) field is read and written by Mp3tag. This has TXXX as the frame name, with your defined name as a part of the data. It's essentially the same as a non-standard Ogg Vorbis comment field.

I think I have it. I going to fool around with for a while and see whats up.
I have a column called TEST and set the TEST value at %podcastcategory%
and set the Field at %podcastcategory%
and set the TEST column value at 55555.
When I drop the flac file into exiftool(-k).exe it shows the internal flac comments
and the TEST value doesn't show, it only shows a
podcastcategory and the value of 55555. Which is OK
I understand what is going on.

But i was able to create an extended field of "pppppp"
and that field was written internally with the 55555 that I assigned to it.

I appreciate your help. I'm pretty sure of what is going on and I don't think that nothing bad will happen I want be able to fix.

I have other question too, but I post them tomorrow under a diff post.

Thanks

When I drag a test mp3 file onto "exiftool(-k -a -u -g1 -j).exe", then Exiftool will list several tag-fields with their values, but not all.
Exiftool uses its own naming scheme for tag-field names.
Exiftool displays user defined tag-fields this way ...
Example: "UserDefinedText": "(TMP_COUNTER) 159"

I did a comparing using one test mp3 file, which has different tag-fields with different values.
Exiftool version 9.44 cannot display all tag-fields from within this test mp3 file.

Following list is produced by ExifTool ...

[{
  "SourceFile": "T:/TEST/T1/2011 - Mein Album/CD 2/ARTIST - TITLE Feat. 123 Feat. 234 Feat. 567.mp3",
  "ExifTool": {
    "ExifToolVersion": 9.44
  },
  "System": {
    "FileName": "ARTIST - TITLE Feat. 123 Feat. 234 Feat. 567.mp3",
    "Directory": "T:/TEST/T1/2011 - Mein Album/CD 2",
    "FileSize": "5.9 kB",
    "FileModifyDate": "2014:01:18 09:28:24+01:00",
    "FileAccessDate": "2014:01:18 09:28:31+01:00",
    "FileCreateDate": "2011:11:16 23:46:35+01:00",
    "FilePermissions": "rw-rw-rw-"
  },
  "File": {
    "FileType": "MP3",
    "MIMEType": "audio/mpeg",
    "ID3Size": 6071
  },
  "ID3v2_4": {
    "Album": "Mein Album",
    "Artist": "herbert II von karajan",
    "Band": "herbert II von karajan",
    "BeatsPerMinute": "00103 BPM",
    "Comment": "wwwwwwwwww ÔÇôÔÇöÔÇò",
    "Composer": "W. A. Mozart/Mo Zart",
    "Grouping": "103-5A",
    "PartOfSet": 2,
    "Genre": "Folk Rock",
    "InitialKey": "5A",
    "Media": "File Album, MP3",
    "Popularimeter": "rating@winamp.com Rating=196 Count=0",
    "Publisher": "Columbia; Columbia Records; A Third; A Fourth",
    "Title": "Feed Me Diamonds (Diggz Short Edit / Aca Out)",
    "Track": 0,
    "RecordingTime": 1998,
    <b>"UserDefinedText": "(TMP_COUNTER) 159"</b>
  },
  "ID3v1": {
    "Title": "Feed Me Diamonds (Diggz Short ",
    "Artist": "herbert II von karajan",
    "Album": "Mein Album",
    "Year": 1998,
    "Comment": "wwwwwwwwww ÔÇôÔÇö?",
    "Genre": "None"
  },
  "Composite": {
    "DateTimeOriginal": 1998
  }
}]

Following list is produced by Mp3tag ...

[1 LIST]
ALBUM="Mein Album"
ARTIST="herbert II von karajan"
ALBUMARTIST="herbert II von karajan"
BPM="00103 BPM"
COMMENT="wwwwwwwwww –—―"
COMPOSER="W. A. Mozart, Mo Zart"
CONTENTGROUP="103-5A"
DISCNUMBER="2"
GENRE="Folk Rock"
INITIALKEY="5A"
MEDIATYPE="File Album, MP3"
RATING WMP="5"
RATING WINAMP="4"
PUBLISHER="Columbia; Columbia Records; A Third; A Fourth"
TITLE="Feed Me Diamonds (Diggz Short Edit / Aca Out)"
TRACK="0"
YEAR="1998"
__INFO_DASH="Dash ambiguity detected."
ALBUMARTISTS="herbert II von karajan; Rolling Stones"
BPM_TEST_1="0.00"
BPM_TEST_2="0"
COUNTER="1"
COVER_PATH="T:\TEST\COVERS\66"
DAB_BR="CD 2 []"
DATE="1103"
DATE_ALBUM_STORED="2012-01-01"
DD_GUID="94c22edc-ea9f-419c-ba9a-7208068e88f1"
DD_SORTGROUP="A"
Discogs_Artist_Name="Dima Eblan"
Discogs_Catalog="none"
Discogs_Country="Russia"
Discogs_Date="2008-06-00"
Discogs_Release_ID="3043850"
FILE_DT_CREATE="2011-11-17 00:46:35"
FILE_DT_MOD="2012-10-22 16:57:30"
GENRE1=" w; it; 1; Sampler;q;i ; Rock; Pop; a; bc;"
GENRE2=" Sampler; Rock; Pop;"
MY_COMMENT="rU+000DU+000ArU+000DU+000ArU+000DU+000ArU+000DU+000Aeeeeeeeeeee U+000DU+000A, bbbbbbbb, fffffffffffffff"
MY_CRC32="853D1C81"
MY_FIELD="My field CCC"
MY_MD5="6A7AD761D49D9CCEF927C7098B9C7E66"
MY_MD5AUDIO="D41D8CD98F00B204E9800998ECF8427E"
MY_ORDER="2"
NNNNNNNNNN="NEU"
NR="28"
NUMBER="123.45"
Style="Parody"
SumOfFilesPerArtist="1"
SX_ALBUM="m8718"
SX_ARTIST="h9196"
SX_FN_EXT="a9636"
SX_TITLE="00000"
TEST="Columbia"
TMP_ISO_DATE="2014-01-17"
TMP_ISO_DAY="17"
TMP_ISO_DAYOW="5"
TMP_ISO_MONTH="01"
TMP_ISO_YEAR="2014"
TMP_JUL_DATE="2456676"
TMP_JUL_DAY="17"
TMP_JUL_DAYOW="5"
TMP_JUL_MONTH="13"
TMP_JUL_YEAR="2013"
TONART="g minor"
TMP_COUNTER="159"

[1 LISTTEC]
filename_ext="ARTIST - TITLE Feat. 123 Feat. 234 Feat. 567.mp3"
filename="ARTIST - TITLE Feat. 123 Feat. 234 Feat. 567"
extension="mp3"
folderpath="T:\TEST\T1\2011 - Mein Album\CD 2\"
directory="CD 2"
parent_directory="2011 - Mein Album"
path="T:\TEST\T1\2011 - Mein Album\CD 2\ARTIST - TITLE Feat. 123 Feat. 234 Feat. 567.mp3"
file_size_bytes="6071"
file_size="5,93 KB"
file_size_kb="5,93"
file_size_mb="0,01"
file_mod_date="2014-01-18"
file_mod_datetime="2014-01-18 09:28:24"
file_mod_datetime_raw="1390033704"
file_create_date="2011-11-16"
file_create_datetime="2011-11-16 23:46:35"
file_create_datetime_raw="1321483595"
tag_size_appended="128"
id3v2_character_encoding="UTF-8"
tag_read="ID3v2.4"
tag="ID3v1 ID3v2.4"
tag_size_prepended="5943"
length="00:00"
tag_size="6071"
filename_rel="T:\TEST\T1\2011 - Mein Album\CD 2\ARTIST - TITLE Feat. 123 Feat. 234 Feat. 567.mp3"
folderpath_rel="T:\TEST\T1\2011 - Mein Album\CD 2\"
app="Mp3tag v2.58"
counter="1"
date="2014-01-18"
datetime="2014-01-18 09:40:20"
total=""
total_files="1"
volume="D1P5V3_T"
workingdir="T1"
workingpath="T:\TEST\T1\"

Here comes another example using a FLAC file.

Following list is produced by ExifTool ...

[{
  "SourceFile": "T:/TEST/T1/FLAC/07. Lights in the Sky.FLAC",
  "ExifTool": {
    "ExifToolVersion": 9.44
  },
  "System": {
    "FileName": "07. Lights in the Sky.FLAC",
    "Directory": "T:/TEST/T1/FLAC",
    "FileSize": "10 MB",
    "FileModifyDate": "2014:01:18 10:17:43+01:00",
    "FileAccessDate": "2014:01:18 10:17:54+01:00",
    "FileCreateDate": "2011:11:16 23:46:42+01:00",
    "FilePermissions": "rw-rw-rw-"
  },
  "File": {
    "FileType": "FLAC",
    "MIMEType": "audio/flac"
  },
  "FLAC": {
    "BlockSizeMin": 4608,
    "BlockSizeMax": 4608,
    "FrameSizeMin": 1299,
    "FrameSizeMax": 8463,
    "SampleRate": 44100,
    "Channels": 2,
    "BitsPerSample": 16,
    "TotalSamples": 9245032,
    "PictureType": "Front Cover",
    "PictureMIMEType": "image/jpeg",
    "PictureDescription": "",
    "PictureWidth": 225,
    "PictureHeight": 225,
    "PictureBitsPerPixel": 24,
    "PictureIndexedColors": 0,
    "PictureLength": 10281,
    "Picture": "(Binary data 10281 bytes)",
    "Padding": "(Binary data 371055 bytes)"
  },
  "Vorbis": {
    "Vendor": "",
    "Album": "The Album{2012}",
    "Albumartist": "#-123-#",
    "Albumartists": "#-123-#",
    "Artist": "#-123-#",
    "Band": "VA",
    "Bpm": 123,
    "BpmMixmeister": 123.45,
    "BpmTest_1": 61.73,
    "BpmTest_2": 62,
    "Comment": "TEST-KOMMENTAR",
    "CommentItunnorm": " 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8",
    "Comment2": "TEST",
    "Compilation": 0,
    "Composer": "Trent Reznor",
    "Composersort": "Reznor, Trent",
    "Count": 11,
    "Counter": 44,
    "DabBr": "FLAC [395]",
    "DdGuid": "480353f7-8191-4ea5-812b-d3ebc05d764f",
    "DdSortgroup": "0-9",
    "Disc": 1,
    "Discnumber": 0,
    "DjoProducer": "Michael Ashley & Bob Marley",
    "DjoVocals": "Mikey Ras Starr",
    "DtMod": "2012-07-14 15:40:22",
    "Dummy": 1360331146,
    "Encoder": "Sound Grinder 3.2.4",
    "FilenameNew": " ()\\\\track 01/03 of . 01.mp3",
    "Genre": "Pip Pop",
    "MvilleDirectory": "Greatest Hits",
    "MyOrder": 53,
    "Nr": 21,
    "SetA_e": "ABCDEabcde",
    "SetF_k": "FGHIJKfghijk",
    "Stem": "T:\\\\TEST\\\\STEM",
    "Sumoffilesperartist": 1,
    "SxAlbum": "t7180",
    "SxArtist": "00000",
    "SxFnExt": "l4638",
    "SxTitle": "l4638",
    "T1": "string1=string2=string3=",
    "Temp1": 1,
    "Temp2": "Album A",
    "Test": "Lights in the Sky",
    "Test_2": "Label : Makasound -|Producteur : Michael Ashley & Bob Marley -|Artist :|Vocals : Mikey Ras Starr -|",
    "Title": "Lights in the Sky",
    "Totaltracks": 10,
    "Track2": "abc def",
    "UsltOut": "T:\\\\TEST\\\\T\\\\FLAC\\\\07 Lights in the Sky.USLT.txt",
    "TagZ": 5,
    "Date": 2008,
    "TrackNumber": "01/01"
  },
  "Composite": {
    "Duration": "0:03:29"
  }
}]

Following list is produced by Mp3tag ...

[1 LIST]
Album="The Album{2012}"
ALBUMARTIST="#-123-#"
ALBUMARTISTS="#-123-#"
Artist="#-123-#"
BAND="VA"
BPM="123"
BPM_MIXMEISTER="123.45"
BPM_TEST_1="61.73"
BPM_TEST_2="62"
Comment="TEST-KOMMENTAR"
COMMENT iTunNORM=" 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8 000003E8"
COMMENT2="TEST"
COMPILATION="0"
COMPOSER="Trent Reznor"
COMPOSERSORT="Reznor, Trent"
COUNT="11"
COUNTER="44"
DAB_BR="FLAC [395]"
DD_GUID="480353f7-8191-4ea5-812b-d3ebc05d764f"
DD_SORTGROUP="0-9"
DISC="1"
DISCNUMBER="0"
DJO_PRODUCER="Michael Ashley & Bob Marley"
DJO_VOCALS="Mikey Ras Starr"
DT_MOD="2012-07-14 15:40:22"
DUMMY="1360331146"
Encoder="Sound Grinder 3.2.4"
FILENAME_NEW="T:\TEST\STEM,  ()\track 01/03 of . 01.mp3"
GENRE="Pip Pop"
MVILLE_DIRECTORY="Greatest Hits"
MY_ORDER="53"
NR="21"
SET_A_E="ABCDEabcde"
SET_F_K="FGHIJKfghijk"
STEM="T:\TEST\STEM"
SumOfFilesPerArtist="1"
SX_ALBUM="t7180"
SX_ARTIST="00000"
SX_FN_EXT="l4638"
SX_TITLE="l4638"
T1="string1=string2=string3="
TEMP1="1"
TEMP2="Album A"
TEST="Lights in the Sky"
TEST_2="Label : Makasound -|Producteur : Michael Ashley & Bob Marley -|Artist :|Vocals : Mikey Ras Starr -|"
TITLE="Lights in the Sky"
TOTALTRACKS="10"
TRACK2="abc def"
USLT_OUT="T:\TEST\T\FLAC\07 Lights in the Sky.USLT.txt"
Z="5"
YEAR="2008"
TRACK="01/01"

[1 LISTTEC]
filename_ext="07. Lights in the Sky.FLAC"
filename="07. Lights in the Sky"
extension="flac"
folderpath="T:\TEST\T1\FLAC\"
directory="FLAC"
parent_directory="T1"
path="T:\TEST\T1\FLAC\07. Lights in the Sky.FLAC"
tag="FLAC"
tag_read="FLAC"
covers="2"
cover_mimetype="image/jpeg"
cover_size="33877"
cover_type="Front Cover"
tag_size_prepended="45731"
tag_size_appended="371055"
samplerate="44100"
length_seconds="210"
length="03:30"
mode="Stereo"
bitrate="395"
codec="Free Lossless Audio Codec"
md5audio="241DD27757839E43D4D1B605008C6DC8"
tag_size="416786"
file_size_bytes="10769905"
file_size="10,27 MB"
file_size_kb="10517,49"
file_size_mb="10,27"
file_mod_date="2014-01-18"
file_mod_datetime="2014-01-18 10:17:43"
file_mod_datetime_raw="1390036663"
file_create_date="2011-11-16"
file_create_datetime="2011-11-16 23:46:42"
file_create_datetime_raw="1321483602"
filename_rel="T:\TEST\T1\FLAC\07. Lights in the Sky.FLAC"
folderpath_rel="T:\TEST\T1\FLAC\"
app="Mp3tag v2.58"
counter="1"
date="2014-01-18"
datetime="2014-01-18 10:22:03"
total="1"
total_files="1"
volume="D1P5V3_T"
workingdir="T1"
workingpath="T:\TEST\T1\"

DD.20140118.1031.CET

ExifTool is also 'extensible", meaning that you can create the same "custom" fields in it's configuration and it will then also read the "tags" that you have added to the files using MP3Tag (and vice-versa) but you have to tell them that 'your' tags exist and what they should do with them

Most "tagging" tools have extensible features to read and add to the 'metadata' associated with a particular file and/or a file type. The notable exceptions being Microsoft and Apple of course.

Ah! The wonders of Open Standards as opposed to proprietary (M$, Apple etc.) 'standards' :slight_smile:

How do I create in the tag panel a new field in which to record the disc box title?
E:\Temp\New Folder\Romantic Collection The Best Limited Edition\07. Tet-A-Tet.....flac
E:\Temp\New Folder\Romantic Collection The Best Limited Edition\08. Disco\CD 2....flac
E:\Temp\New Folder\Romantic Collection The Best Limited Edition\29. Retro....flac
etc.

"Romantic Collection The Best Limited Edition" is a name of the disc box, which provides a set of 11+ discs.
"Tet-A-Tet", "Disco","Retro" is a name of the album.
How to create a new tag I field skill, but with a name for it? %contentgroup% or different?


Call it anything you like, just as long as it is unique in the meta information. The 'tag/field' I have for that purpose is DISCNAME (%discname%)

Adding tags:
add a date added field

What can I name this new field to write?
Choose from some of the list (the one directly) or name as he can think of.