Vehicle Won't Display TITLE tag after using TAG - TAG

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I just discovered this software, and it’s fantastic. Certainly great for batch processes. I used it to set the TITLE tag to match the file name by using:

TAG - TAG
Field: TITLE

Format String: %_filename%

Doing that appears to work, it properly duplicates the file name as the Title, shows up in File Explorer, etc. However, when I put the songs on a USB drive and put it in my 2016 RAV4, the TITLE is blank. All other fields are fine. Interestingly, I tried manually typing into the TITLE field, saved it, and it worked properly in my car.

I verified that the TAG type is ID3v2.3 (ID3v1 ID3v2.3), for both manual and TAG - TAG entries. Very bizarre. Am I somehow not using TAG - TAG correctly?

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You can compare a track with the TITLE filled by Convert Tag -> Tag and %_filename% with another track where you filled the TITLE content manually.

Press Alt+T on the two tracks and compare the content.
If you like, you can show us a screenshot of both metadata overviews.

BTW: Have you entered exactly the same content manually?
Or was it much shorter, or did it not contain any special characters?

I assume this is your Toyota car?

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Could it be that you have used a differently named field like e.g. TITEL
A look at the extended tags dialogue, as @LyricsLover already described, should shed some light on this.

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Thanks for the quick reply. I’ve attached two screenshots, one of a track where I entered the TITLE manually, the other using TAG - TAG (“A Single Note” is the manual one, which works fine). There are no special characters, these are all just plain alphanumeric.

Yes, this is in my Toyota RAV4. Again, it’s showing metadata correctly for everything else, just not the TITLE track where I’ve used TAG - TAG to copy the filename.

MP3Tag Manual
MP3Tag Manual1477×924 44.2 KB

MP3Tag TAG-TAG
MP3Tag TAG-TAG1726×936 48.3 KB

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Here’s the dialog window I use when performing the function:

MP3Tag TAG-TAG Window
MP3Tag TAG-TAG Window658×439 12.1 KB

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Visually, I can't see any obvious reasons.

Could it be that your TITLE content 1994 includes any trailing invisible characters like a space?
Please double click on the value 1994 in Alt+T and check whether there are any character before or after the four numbers.
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Just to be sure:
Does Convert Tag->Tag never work for track TITLE in your car, or are there just a few that don't work?

One special thing that I have found in the manual:

The system is compatible with id3 ver. 1.0, 1.1, And ver. 2.2, 2.3, 2.4 Id3 tags. (The number of characters is based on id3 ver. 1.0 And 1.1.)

If this is true, I assume that your car radio does not support TITLE content longer than 30 characters.
Nevertheless, your 1994 value should display fine.

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What happens to the car display if you use Convert>Tag-Tag again on the file that worked and added e.g. an "s" to the TITLE:

grafik
grafik454×268 8.22 KB

Does your car pick that up?

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Well……that was interesting. Initially, when I used %title% for the TAG - TAG function, it actually didn’t show up. So I tried %_filename%s and that worked, adding an ‘s’ to the end of it. And then, I went back to try %title%, and it showed up. So I processed it, and it worked in my car. So…..it’s just the initial run of TAG - TAG that doesn’t work?

I verified there are 0 spaces before or after.

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I doubt that.
If you have more files that need an update, could you try to find out what the cause for your observation is?

Also, it would be a good way to check the new files whether they are OK and nothing is wrong with their structure.