File Order

I have changed the tags for Title, Album & Artist to all read track 01, track 02 etc up to track 24 where track is all the same file name and it starts playing at track 16 instead of tract 01 any ideas?

I guess that this depends on your player's sorting algorithm.
Does it use the filename? (BTW: I do not understand what you mean by "where track is all the same file name " - how can the track be the filename?)
So: does you player sort by filename or by field? If you have left the field TRACK empty but filled other fields then it could be that, as there is no data in TRACK, the player uses a random order.

Under title, Artist and album it says Snow 01 for the first track, snow 02 for the second track etc.

Whta I have on another memory stick is music tracks in several folders the first list in alphabetical order in windows explorer but I have just checked and the first three tracks it plays in that eight in order are thrack 8, thack 3 then track 1 any ideas how I go about finding out what my car stereo uses to select the order?

This is not quite what I asked although it clearifies it a bit.
The question is: have you got any numbers in TRACK (the field)?
If not then it may be hard for the player to sort by the track number as there is nothing and you end up with a random sequence.

The other thing about the "8" being out of sequence: there is a bug in the windows explorer that interprets three-digit-numbers with leading zeros as octal values (instead of decimal values) when sorting.

PS: Sorry for the reference to a car stereo - that was a different post I was thinking of. Naturally, it is of no relevance what any arbitrary car stereo uses as sorting algorithm. Sorry for that.

Hi

I tried adding track numbers as well and it made no difference.

The order it plays the tracks in is 6, 11, 10, 5, 7, 9, 4, 8, 12, 3, 1, 2.

I joined files together to make it 12 instead of 24 hoping that would solve the problem.

where did you "try" add the track numbers? Did you succeed? Where do you check for success: in the tags or in the filename?

I'd suggest: (in no particular order)

Take the player out of "Random Order".

Delete any playlist stored on the drive.

Check for hidden directories that the player may use. and delete them.

I added the track number where is says "year track Genre" just below the album line and above the comment line is that correct?

Player is not on random and there are no playlists (not sure the car stereo would know what to do with one anyway) and I have no idea how I go about looking for hidden directories.

All media players, even lowly little portable MP3 players create themselves a 'playlist' of one kind or another, otherwise they would spend more processor cycles searching for files than they do actually playing them.

Control Panel -> Folder Options -> Show hidden files and folders

We are fishing in troubled waters, but we need a detailed view to the inner tag data and to some technical data of the media files.
Please run the attached Mp3tag export file of filetype "mte" against the files in question, ...
that means ... create a report output text file using the Mp3tag Export feature.
Then attach the output text file to your next forum message or send it via forum post to me.

Download/copy/move the attached MTE file into the folder ...
(Win XP) %APPDATA%\Mp3tag\Export</b>
resp.
(newer OS) %APPDATA%\Roaming\Mp3tag\Export</b>

Export.TXT.20140311.TagDump.mte (457 Bytes)
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Export.TXT.20140311.TagDump.mte (457 Bytes)

Now I feel really Noob, lol.

All that happens when I click on the .mte file is it opens a new tab and displays some text, how do I attach it?

The MTE file is a simple text file, which contains a program script written in Mp3tag Export Script Language.
The MTE file must be stored in the user application data folder, into the right subfolder, reserved for Mp3tag export script files.

If you do not know where this folder is located on your Windows system, then ...

  1. Open Mp3tag, select one file.
  2. Press [Ctrl+E].
  3. Create a new export script, press button [new].
  4. Give the script a new name or use the same name as given from the attachment file.
  5. An editor window opens, which contains some Mp3tag export script related instructions, ...
    remove the instructions, leave this window open.
  6. Then open the downloaded MTE file using an editor.
  7. Copy the entire script text into the new MTE script file and save this file.
  8. Close the downloaded MTE file.
  9. Close the Mp3tag dialog "Export".
  10. Select one or more files from the track list.
  11. Press [Ctrl+E] and select your created export script.
  12. Press [OK] to run the script against the selected files.
  13. The export script will create an output text file, which is located on the desktop.

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Got to 6 ok but I still can't get the file to download all it does is open a new tab in firefox, what am I doing wrong?

Unless the attched is correct where I only got to step 5.Snow.mte.txt (570 Bytes)

Snow.mte.txt (570 Bytes)

Ok, step 1 to including 5 looks well done.

When I'm speaking about 'downloading', then I want you to download the file, not to 'open'.
Try to use a menu item from the context menu of the linked url (by secondary mouse click), which allows to download the linked file and save it to a place on your hard disk.
Otherwise try to save the source text from within the opened tab in firefox to a text file on your hard disk.
Or just open the firefox tab content as source text and copy the text as described in step 7.

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I hope I have done this right.

New_export_file.txt (1.01 KB)

I could send a screen shot if that would help if you let me know what I can send it as.

No, this is not what we need, this looks like the output from the Mp3tag basic scripting example, after execution.

But I told you to remove this example script entirely and replace it with the export script I gave you in post #10.

Another trial ....
If you open the given download link with Firefox in a new tab, then you should see the text of the Mp3tag export script file for the intended test.

Then press [Ctrl+A] and the text will be higlighted.
Then press [Ctrl+C] and the text will be copied into the Windows clipboard.

Now you can paste the text into an empty new Mp3tag export script.
Save the new export script file with a name of your wish.

Select media files and execute this export script.
The export script will create an output text file, which is located on the desktop.

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Think I finally may have got it, I hope.

Mp3tag.Report.tagdump.13032014.140512.txt (15.8 KB)

Thank you. At the first glance everything looks ok with the report and the filenames and the tag-fields.

Have a look at the mapping from file to folder.
There are folders with only one file, but also folders with more than one file.

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Hmm ... why do the files reside in those numbered folders?
Did you have it desired this way?
Or does it happen by accident?

Some players have a built in method how they play the files, stored in a foldertree.
For example ...
http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?act=atta...ost&id=2726
I cannot say for sure whether this is the background for your problem.

Which player exposes this behavior?
Have a look into the manual of your player, or ask a related question in the player's user group.

Maybe the files are played in order by the track length or by file size?

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I worked out if i put them in sub folders like that it should play them in order as it relates to the order it played them in when they were all in one folder.

I would guess you are right the player is overriding with its own order.

Many thanks for all your help.