Music Genre Tags Just WILL NOT update!

[Malthus101]

Hi there...

I've been using this software successfully and preparing many artists for my DAP/Phone etc.

However, I have a bunch of "Slayer" FLACs that I'm trying to convert down to mp3 for phone use.

For some reason, the genre tags just won't update! They default to "thrash metal" and I changed them all to just simply "metal" but when it gets over to Black Player on my phone, or even just the outputted files from Media Human, there they are, labelled as "Thrash metal".

It's driving me crazy! Have the genre tags been "hard embedded" or something I don't understand?! Any solutions?

Thanks!

[ohrenkino]

On which files don't you see the correct genre?
MP3?
Could you post a screenshot of the extended tags dialogue for a single of these files?

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[garym]

If these are mp3 files, I suspect you have both ID3v1 and ID3v2 (and/or APE) tags. You should remove all but one tag (I use only ID3v2 tags on my mp3 files).

[Malthus101]

Hi

So firstly I ran the source files through mp3tag - I cleaned them up and outputted them as FLACs and changed the genre to "Metal".

When I look at the files in Windows Explorer, they are tagged as "Metal". OK.

When I look at the files in mp3tag, the genre says "Metal". So far so good.

However, after I have converted the files to smaller AAC files using MediaHuman Converter, the genre reads "Thrash Metal" in Windows Explorer, and that is also how it is read when they are sent to my phone and picked up by Black Player.

"Could you post a screenshot of the extended tags dialogue for a single of these files?"

I'm not exactly sure what 'extended tags dialogue' means but I have screen-shot the steps I just described - hope that is helpful.

Thanks.

** Sorry I can't see how to upload images here? **

[Malthus101]

The source files were FLAC not MP3 - do FLACs also contain these multiple tags you describe? thanks.

[garym]

Not usually, but it is possible. Sometimes people mistakenly add ID3 tags to FLAC files. Normally they should just have vorbis tags.

[ohrenkino]

@Malthus101

I'm not exactly sure what 'extended tags dialogue' means

That is why I linked you the hints. There you see also a description how to upload screenshots.

[ohrenkino]

@Malthus101

When I look at the files in mp3tag, the genre says "Metal". So far so good.

So MP3tag is out?
Have you tried to tag the AAC files with MP3tag again?
Please note that AAC files are a fairly raw format that allows only little tagging.

MP3tag v2.51 doesn't change any .AAC tag field. Why?

When something is put in any .AAC field or deleted from it, nothing appears or remains old text. It seems, that MP3tag is not working with AAC. MP3tag just can delete AAC's tags... Could anyone help me? Thanks

MP4 would be a better format.

[Malthus101]

I'm still working out what these "extended tag" things are...

[LyricsLover]

@Malthus101

I'm still working out what these "extended tag" things are...

Extended Tags – Mp3tag Documentation

[ohrenkino]

@Malthus101

'm still working out what these "extended tag" things are...

Press Alt-T to open that dialogue. Or use the View menu.

[Malthus101]

Looks like the Extended Tags option is ghosted out for me.... but you can see the tags column here at least.

[LyricsLover]

You have to select at least 1 of your tracks first.
Then press View -> Extended Tags.

Or you can right-click on at least 1 track and then select Extended Tags from the context menu.

[Malthus101]

I see... OK, do I need to go in and edit some fields next? thanks.

[LyricsLover]

And now please show us the same Extended Tags window from one of your converted AAC files (the one that show you a "wrong"/not updated genre).

[garym]

That picture shows that the FLAC file has 3 different tags, FLAC, ID3v1, ID3v2. You need to delete the ID3v1 and ID3v2 tags from the FLAC files.

[garym]

Info on removing these from FLAC.

Tags: FLAC (FLAC) and FLAC (FLAC ID3v2)

I just scanned my collection of FLAC files and a few have "FLAC (FLAC ID3v2)" in the tag column. Most just have simply "FLAC (FLAC)" listed in the Tag column. What is the difference and how might this have happened?

Seems mp3tag might not be able to remove the ID3v1 tags. Perhaps the easiest way to remove all these extra tags is to convert the FLAC files from FLAC to FLAC, and hopefully your converter will only create the FLAC tags. You can use foobar2000 to convert or almost any converter. I use dbpoweramp to convert.

[ohrenkino]

To remove unwanted or invalid tags from a file:
cut the tag, paste the tag.
... you might refer to the previous inability of MP3tag to display also ID3V1 tag presence in FLAC files.
This is not valid any more:
[2021-08-24] NEW: added reporting of existing ID3v1 tags in %_tag% for FLAC files. (#13156)

[garym]

Excellent. Thanks for the update @ohrenkino. So @Malthus101, this is easy now. With mp3tag, load up all these FLAC files with multiple tags, select them all, RIGHT CLICK, choose "cut tag" from menu. Then choose "paste tag" from menu. Then the FLAC files are left with only correct FLAC tags. (I suspect your converter to AAC is seeing the ID3 tags and thus using the wrong genre.)

[Malthus101]

OK, I'll try a single album first to see if it's working, then I can redo the lot! I'll let you know how it goes after I've done the test... thanks all.